Lack of Black Ops Community "Feeling"

Discussion in 'Call of Duty 7: Black Ops' started by Cerwidwen, Nov 19, 2010.

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  1. Cerwidwen

    Cerwidwen M.I.A. Status

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    Anyone else get the feeling they aren't part of a particular BO community?
    With CoD4 and even 5, we played the same servers, saw the same people popping in and out, and kind of got to know people...even if they were Mexican douches.
    I don't get that sense so far with BO...even though I love the game itself. Man, we need some more configurable servers...that will allow people with certain tastes to start frequenting the servers that have their personal favorite configuration. Example: I like FF OFF, HC ON, No respawn time, no camping (obviously) so I will frequent a server that has these settings, where as someone who likes to camp will frequent a lame server (lol), SO....I will start to see the same people with the same preferences and get a sense of community (even if it does have people like Red_moon and Demonocracy)...
    Thoughts on this?
    Cerwidwen, Nov 19, 2010
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  2. Adogg

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    Agreed. The whole lack of dedicated servers kills the community feeling of the game.

    PS. These faux dedicated servers are NOT dedicated servers from CoD4
    Adogg, Nov 19, 2010
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  3. Shark

    Shark Getting the band back together... Staff Member Leader

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    I agree. Before we knew the limitations of "Ranked" servers we were hoping to setup one of our BLOPS servers to be almost as identical to our COD4 Hardcore server as possible. Unfortunately, they have limited what can be done to these servers and opted for a global leaderboard with homogenized server settings. We could accomplish this server setup with an "unranked" server (which we are hoping to setup soon).
    This game is still very much unfinished and we will see what the PC devs will open up for us. I am trying to wait patiently to see if they fix the server lag and FPS stuttering issues. After which, I believe these decisions will have a place to be made.

    I do not like to be lag knifed from 10 feet away or get a way with killing someone by shooting their hit box that is lagging 10 feet behind them (ask bender about this one ;) ).
    Shark, Nov 19, 2010
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  4. IWazInYoMoM69

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shark @ Nov 19 2010, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Say it to my face?!?! :huh:


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shark @ Nov 19 2010, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Bender is full of shit and uses a lag switch similar too cabj's..... ;)


    I agree with you cer... However I think this is the most people we have had active in sometime. I mean OPS has in my opinion brought us a little closer as a group. I think another problem to this is there is only 18 spots taking that big match play away. We can only hope that the unranked version is a little more PC friendly, but I won't complain at the small uprising we have had because of it.
    IWazInYoMoM69, Nov 19, 2010
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  5. Sniper_69

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IwazInYoMom69 @ Nov 19 2010, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    FIXED
    Sniper_69, Nov 19, 2010
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  6. IWazInYoMoM69

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    How about I put it in a cup, I leave and you can do what you want with it lol....
    IWazInYoMoM69, Nov 19, 2010
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  7. tf141

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    Stop whining old bitches. It is too early to make major concludes. COD 4 it is / was extremely (best so far) good game but it is time for all of us to move on. All new stuff and ideas are highly criticized cause we are so used to to the knowed old stuff and ideas. I think for furs time after COD 4 ( and yes i own them all) i feel like we have potentional substitute. Lets just pationaly wait for the "FIX" and see what follow after that. I just installed windows xp3 (personaly tweaked skimmed) and guess what the game run almost constantly on 100 fps i would not think that outdated operation system like xp would help but it did, so my point here is something realy is fucked up with the game code, so please dont throw it in the bin yet cause have the "feeling" that this "peace of shit" will be a good ride for long time. Ride on. Now Butzie and company may start the flames and grenade launchers. Peace.

    B.S. my major concern is the low numbers of maps. Hopefully they wont make us buy dlc like they did in the previous gay one MW2.
    tf141, Nov 19, 2010
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  8. art_Dent99

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    The main problem I sense is that there is no way to directly connect to the server of your choice (like most steam games). That means that you either have to be lucky enough to be found on the list, or be invited. I assume there is no 'connect now' widget available for the website, or else we would already be using it.

    If you could come up with an easy to find keyword that is 'filter proof', it may be possible to direct people from the site to find us in game. Otherwise, we are just supporting IW by allowing the world to connect to yet another homogenized server.

    And for those who hope unranked will be our salvation, I suggest running the star wars mod on CoD4 to see how that goes; not that the CoD4 server has traffic anymore anyways....

    and TF; UO was the best. Since then the franchise went downhill...but look! they are adding something they took away from UO!!!! yay!
    art_Dent99, Nov 19, 2010
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  9. Cerwidwen

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    Oh, definitely I am not giving up hope. This game is very new and I am sure people will begin to figure out how to tweak it the way they want. Right now, just kind of seems like my son's 360....never know who you are playing with.
    Cerwidwen, Nov 19, 2010
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  10. Shark

    Shark Getting the band back together... Staff Member Leader

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    Shark, Nov 19, 2010
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    art_Dent99, Nov 19, 2010
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  12. quicksilver8478

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    I really don't think that as part of the gaming community, we aren't raising enough of a shit storm to game servers or treyarch to add better support for server customization. The support they provided by giving us "dedicated" servers was like they took a shit, put it on a plate and handed it to us.

    We as customers should show our dissatisfaction, and push the "customer is always right rule" to get the experience we truly believe this game deserves, both for our sanity, and our money's worth.


    Secondly, I don't believe the additional features that we will get from the unranked server will completely give us control of the server in a way that we are used to. We will have to live with a few things out of our control, but for the most part, that is what seems to be the new trend.
    quicksilver8478, Nov 20, 2010
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  13. DemonocracY

    DemonocracY no vaseline...... just gravel Staff Member Administrator

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    WTF :eek:

    like evryone say...its Butzie fault...being this shit game fix or not,we have to get again,like in cod4,a U.A.N. dedicated night on the server,all 18sluts in their respective places and on vent.and the fun will return again.
    DemonocracY, Nov 20, 2010
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  14. art_Dent99

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (QuikSilvr @ Nov 20 2010, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    So if 2% of your customers wanted you to invest 80% of your time making patches to fix problems that are 50% to blame on customers hardware...?

    Sorry, the way of the game/movie industry is franchises on the cheap.

    I have a feeling that the next step will be DLC (paid of course); with which they will dangle 'enhancements' (bug fixes) that will actually amount to nothing. Or more accurately, fix the old stuff, but the new stuff is what everyone wants and it will be buggy as hell.
    art_Dent99, Nov 21, 2010
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  15. quicksilver8478

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (art_Dent99 @ Nov 21 2010, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    isn't it always? it seems that every time we all jump to a new game, its about as crappy as it can be. This is the reason they want to kill off PC gaming.
    quicksilver8478, Nov 21, 2010
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  16. Bender

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    Personally I think Black Ops is a great title and it has far exceeded my expectations. The reason there is a lack of community feel is that we are not regularly playing on our own servers (the various reasons have been hashed out here many times). We can resolve all of our server related issues by just applying a little effort and being somewhat proactive (trying different locations, stop hosting the more unpopular game types, acquire an unranked box, ect... simple sh*t).

    To address the camping issue, yes its bad but again that could be resolved if we actually played on our own boxes thus allowing us to moderate our own games. I blame much of the excessive camping and general noobism due to MW2, it created a lot of bad habits for many and it was like this lawless wild wild west with no consequences. If you guys haven't noticed but when we get about 6 of us on out server its fills up quick. If we play on our own servers they will be populated.

    Anyone still on the fence about purchasing the game I would say go for it. It's a really fun title and like I said before it really exceeded my expectations. When I'm on vent and playing with Shark, Butzie, Adogg, ect. it's a compete blast. Don't be turned off by the insane amount of bitching about the game that you may see on Steam's or Treyarch's forums. If you look closely I would say about half of the negative posts you see are from people who don't even own the game nor even have a system remotely capable of running the game. A large part of the gaming community is a whinny f*ggot ass bunch that will bitch about anything and everything. In my opinion the gaming community consists of 1 part actual gamer and 1 part full time troll.

    I'm certainly not saying that the game is perfect but it's good and I'm confident that we will get our server situation dialed in. $60 is a minimal investment for the amount of entertainment you will get from this game, you can't even get into a amusement park for $60 anymore.
    :D
    Bender, Nov 21, 2010
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  17. art_Dent99

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    iSighed
    art_Dent99, Nov 21, 2010
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  18. Bender

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    ^^Because: "A large part of the gaming community is a whinny f*ggot ass bunch that will bitch about anything and everything. In my opinion the gaming community consists of 1 part actual gamer and 1 part full time troll." = Art Dent
    Bender, Nov 21, 2010
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  19. Shark

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    I am totally down for getting a different server set up. We dropped the other because we saw very quickly that ranked was not gonna meet our needs.

    If we all want to go the unranked route, then that is where we will go. I get 70 ping to Dallas, which is playable for me. Butz, if you get 120-140 ping, then I can understand if you are unhappy. I don't know if Seattle is the best route, but we can find a different location if needed.
    Shark, Nov 21, 2010
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  20. Bender

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    Lets do, lets knock it out today... let me know what I can do to help if need be. I would really like to find a happy balance that can appease most of our members.

    If your worried about populating an unranked server I can throw up the server IP and promote it on my modding forum. To date we have 1146 members (many are oversea but we have plenty stateside) and for the most part they are all gamers. People will also see the IP because I think we average something around 27-28 online at any given time.

    Lets do it! :D
    Bender, Nov 21, 2010
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